12.50 Carlisle

[Posts: 420Joined: 14 Apr 2007, 19:43]

No bet in the race but BERWICK LAW should be done under the non triers rule.

Absolute stonewaller,never put in the race

[Posts: 1588Joined: 09 Oct 2007, 20:57]

Have to agree. People fall over themselves to praise Murphy when he rides this sort of race and the others come back to him - when they don't he just looks a complete idiot. Maximum penalty would not be unfair.

I actually watched the race with a view to Marleybow being a Ballymore Properties horse but although he won I was pretty disappointed. Still a promisding horse but he looks far more a three mile chaser than a hurdler on this showing.

[Posts: 2067Joined: 30 Sep 2007, 13:16Location: Lincs]

Any place you can watch it online guys? ? ?

[Posts: 1588Joined: 09 Oct 2007, 20:57]

I would imagine it would be the Racing Post site - but paysite last time I looked.

[Posts: 420Joined: 14 Apr 2007, 19:43]

Not even an enquiry

[Posts: 1588Joined: 09 Oct 2007, 20:57]

I wish I could say I am surprised but half the time they only do anything if they are virtually forced into by those on TV - unfortunately Lydia and Steve must have known it looked a disgrace but chose to keep quiet - disappointing.

[Posts: 6473Joined: 31 May 2004, 16:52Location: Ubiquitous]

It is noticeable that the horse was hanging left thoughout - whether one thinks any greater recourse to the whip would have recitified that, and forced the horse to race a bit kinder, might have some bearing on how one ultimately judges the performance.

I'd mark it down as a benign introduction, if not necessarily the most educative.

gc

[Posts: 1588Joined: 09 Oct 2007, 20:57]

Whatever slant anyone wants to put on it he was a fancied horse never put in the race to win it - not acceptable in my book.

[Posts: 1208Joined: 30 Aug 2002, 12:04]

The stewards at Carlisle are reluctant to take action against the trainer, especially when the owner is on the board of the racecourse.

Typical "not off" introduction from a stable some people can read like a book.

[Posts: 1843Joined: 04 Jul 2007, 21:51Location: Stockton on Tees]

The stewards at Carlisle are reluctant to take action against the trainer, especially when the owner is on the board of the racecourse.

Typical "not off" introduction from a stable some people can read like a book.

Wow, amazing to hear you say this Wallace, though I have no doubt it is true.

But basically it's sending out a statement that if the owner is on the board of the racecourse, he can then do what the hell he likes with his racehorses on the track. What a shocking state of affairs the game is in if this is the case.

Mike

[Posts: 665Joined: 25 Jul 2004, 12:59Location: London]

Lydia did mention it but not in strong terms . Said something like it will be a lot better for the run and came from nowhere. She was nowhere near as critical as she normally is when talking about banned jockeys ,corruption etc.Maybe she likes Timmy.

[Posts: 1588Joined: 09 Oct 2007, 20:57]

Even if she does I would hope she wouldn't let it cloud her judgement. Probably more surprised at Steve as he is usually not afraid to say what he thinks. If I remember he was at the forefront of the criticism of Mark Bradburne riding that Henry Daly novice whose name escapes me. Talking of Steve met him once at a Racing Club function and came accross as a really nice bloke - no signs of any sort of professional arrogance.

I've known Steve for almost 2 years now. Thoroughly decent, nice bloke. Introduced me to Lydia in April at the Newbury Guineas Trials meeting.

[Posts: 723Joined: 04 Feb 2007, 00:40Location: Co. Kildare]

There is a trainer who openly admits he is going to give his horse a school around, and everyone hacks and all except it as part of racing, the horse in question Aces Four, punters need protection, but when non triers are excepted as par for the course, well I Despair.

Did Ferdy Murphy say that they wouldn't be going for the race win? Ferdy simply warned the public that Aces Four would probably need the run - anyone that backed him should have known that.

Aces Four was in contention but ran out of gas - whether this was because he needed the run or because he doesn't stay is debatable.

Berwick Law was never given a chance at all.