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So this is the flat season?

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kentdougal

Postby kentdougal on 14 Jul 2010, 13:38

One and a half turf flat one and a half AW flat and two jumps meetings and they wonder why there's no money in the levy fund

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conundrum

Postby conundrum on 14 Jul 2010, 13:47

Come on now, Kentdoug, be fair. After all, the bookies are still giving punters the likes of Portman Park, Steepledowns, Lucksin Park, Thunder Alley etc. etc. for the benefit of the true racing and betting afficionados.
Leave the mickey mouse stuff until Friday and Saturday with the Scoop 6 type of races. If it's quality racing you're after then why not switch allegiance and wait for the new jumps season to get into full swing?

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Postby Matthew01 on 14 Jul 2010, 14:29

It's Lucksin Downs actually :lol:

You can't beat a bit of Millersfield :D
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leither

Postby leither on 14 Jul 2010, 17:09

Well the bhb and the race planning all seem to want all the major races on a saturday oh and big mac as well, personally i cant see why we cant have some decent midweek racing through out the summer it is july after all plenty people on holiday at major cities in britain and racing is supposed to be in the entertainment industry.

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Postby anthonycutt on 14 Jul 2010, 17:30

And with this thread it's official: I am now sick to the back teeth of all the negativity.

For some, it seems the love of racing is second only to the love of moaning about racing. Correct, it is the flat season; it's a Wednesday in the middle of the flat season. It can't be Derby Day every day for goodness sake.

We could do nothing but complain about the levy, all weather & other 'dross' and how Racing For Change are planning to destroy the sport but the proof of the pudding is in the eating: ask the people coming out of Kempton, Uttoxeter etc if they had a good time. I bet you'll get not a single negative response (unless they let their pocket do the talking of course!)

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apracing

Postby apracing on 14 Jul 2010, 18:53

Simple mathematics - total turf flat courses 30, weekly fixture requirement 35.

If you ran all the fixtures as turf flat meetings, there wouldn't be a blade of grass left on any of them by the end of July.

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kentdougal

Postby kentdougal on 14 Jul 2010, 22:21

AP wrote

Simple mathematics - total turf flat courses 30, weekly fixture requirement 35.

If you ran all the fixtures as turf flat meetings, there wouldn't be a blade of grass left on any of them by the end of July.
Funny Alan how on earth did we manage before the AW then?

Now I certainly expect or want Derby Day but neither do I want dusty AW in the middle of summer. I would also like a flat meeting at Lingfield WITHOUT any AW races. That's all I'm asking. What with the lack of grass meetings and the strange goings on in the market at shown up by Glen I hardly have a bet these days

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Glenn

Postby Glenn on 14 Jul 2010, 23:48

You'd have thought Lingers could have run at least one race on their shiny new 'draw biasless' straight course, if only for comedic value. That would have made four races staged under rules before The Rabble's boys vacated the scene and handed over the track to the local flapping club.
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Postby bbobbell on 14 Jul 2010, 23:53

Glenn wrote:You'd have thought Lingers could have run at least one race on their shiny new 'draw biasless' straight course, if only for comedic value. That would have made four races staged under rules before The Rabble's boys vacated the scene and handed over the track to the local flapping club.


Glenn, just one wee thing. No flapping meeting that I know of is run on sand. Certainly, the tracks at Langholm, Hawick and Selkirk are all on grass. coming up 30th and 31 July at Langholm.
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Glenn

Postby Glenn on 15 Jul 2010, 00:11

Those meetings may be run on grass but they rank alongside German & Irish gaff tracks, the Naples autumn festival and the delights of Geelong as essential viewing for those looking for pointers for which horses will be winning aw handicaps in the coming year.

Plenty of Phil Smith's bullseyes being lined up for creatures currently coming out of these races.
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Postby Zamorston on 15 Jul 2010, 00:50

Matthew01 wrote:It's Lucksin Downs actually :lol:

You can't beat a bit of Millersfield :D



Quite right Matthew!

Probably the least frustrating venue to place a bet at nowadays. As much chance (if not more) of backing a winner there than in any 'real' race.

And at least if you back a loser you can't blame anyone or anything other than not being lucky enough to have chosen the winner. :lol:

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Postby apracing on 15 Jul 2010, 08:24

Kent,

In case you're serious, pre AW we 'managed' because there were fewer fixtures. No Sunday racing at all, only two meetings each afternoon midweek and evening racing limited to two fixtures on not more than three or four days each week.

In this week in 1989, there were 22 fixtures, all turf, all flat.

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runandskip

Postby runandskip on 15 Jul 2010, 09:30

AP
that sure was the good old days,if it was down to me next years fixture list would be down to those levels.
my local track Bath has a meeting four weeks running in july,how daft it that!

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Postby CheltenhamSpecialist on 15 Jul 2010, 09:37

conundrum wrote: If it's quality racing you're after then why not switch allegiance and wait for the new jumps season to get into full swing?


Well said, Sir
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Romney Marsh

Postby Romney Marsh on 15 Jul 2010, 11:22

Exactly when does the new jumps season get into swing?
It seems it never does.
Hardly any meetings in September and just the odd one in October...fair enough it might step up a bit in November but as soon as it does Cheltenham is mentioned and horses start to be put away...a quick blaze of action around Boxing Day/New Year and that's basically it bar the odd decent race on a Saturday (assuming it's not frozen off) through January/February before the Cheltenham/Aintree/Punchestown festivals..... all crammed into 6 weeks. No 'narrative' there.

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