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Postby Seagull on 13 Feb 2008, 17:21

Wed 12 Feb

ANY FAV
1ST Lost
2nd Farringdon won 7/4

profit on day £12.50

Bank to c/f £683.09

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
1st Race Logans Run won 4/11

profit on day £3.60

profit to c/f £340.84

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Postby Seagull on 14 Feb 2008, 16:04

Thurs 14 Feb

ANY FAV
1st race in Ireland lost
2nd race Frankie Figg won 1/2

profit/loss on day level

bank to c/f £683.09

ANY NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
1st race Frankie Figg won 1/2
profit on day £5.00

profit to c/f £345.84

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Postby Seagull on 16 Feb 2008, 02:34

FRI 14 FEB

Bad day today but its been doing well recently so no real suprise not to win every day!

ANY FAV
1 25 Fakenham the betting on betfair kept changing the favs and they went off j/f in the end so left that one out.
Oscar Park won the 5th race but at a s.p. of 8/15 only got some of the stakes back

loss on day -32.60

Bank to c/f +606.49

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Again an overall loss on the day I did not get the best price on Oscar Park but after comm just beat 1.50 (1/2) that was the 4th bet on the system.

loss on day -30.00

Bank to c/f +£315.84.
This has only been going 20 days so ok at present.

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Postby Seagull on 17 Feb 2008, 12:22

SAT 16 Feb

ANY FAV
1ST race on day won by Serabad
6/5 profit £6.00

bank to c / f £612.49

ANY NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
1st race to fit the system was Serabad
£12.00 profit

bank to c/f £327.84

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Postby arkle55 on 17 Feb 2008, 22:23

SEAGULL HI
Do you not have £5 stakes on both methods when it is the first race

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Postby Seagull on 18 Feb 2008, 07:35

Arkle
If you see back through these posting I said I would personally be doing this by starting witha £10 stake on non hand races up to 9 runners.

The reasoning was that there is according to past statistics much less chance of losing the whole bank as the odds of finding a winning fav in non hand up to 9 runners is much better than the odds of finding a winning fav in any race.

I am also backing the majority of betfair which has enhanced the profits.

The 'old boy' does them solely in betting shops and he starts with a £5.00 bet.

SUN 17 Feb
ANY FAV
The 2-40 Navan was left alone as there were 3 horses desputing favourtism
eventually there were joint favs.
On the 4th race of the day Cape Of Storm won @evens
profit on day £5.00

bank to c/f +617.49

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Cape of Storm won 1st race that fitted the method.
Got 2.05 betfair after comm
profit on day £10.50

profit to c/f +338.34

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Postby Seagull on 18 Feb 2008, 17:58

Mon 18th Feb

ANY FAV
Firts race won by Wizard Looking 7/2f
profit on day £17.50

bank to c/f £634.99


ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS

First one lost
2nd one Orientalist Art won 3/10

lost £4.00 on day

bank to c/f £334.34

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Postby Seagull on 19 Feb 2008, 21:45

Tues 19th Feb
ANY FAV
Karmest won 5/4
profit on day £6.25

bank to c/f £641.24

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Forest Pennant won 2/5
profit on day £4.00
Profit to c/f £338.34

went to funeral so did not back it personally so dont know betfair price but it was 1.50 (1/2) in the morning.

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Postby Seagull on 21 Feb 2008, 08:43

20 Feb

ANY FAV
Dress to Impress just about held on in the very first race.1/2
profit 2.50

bank c/f £643.74


ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
Dress to Impress won the first
profit 5.00

bank to c/f £343.34

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Postby Seagull on 22 Feb 2008, 07:31

Thur 21 Feb

ANY FAV
The first race of the day the 1-50 was won by Fretwork the 2/1 jolly.

profit on day £10.00

bank now £653.74


ANY FAV NON HAN TO 9 RUNNERS
The first race to fit the system was won by Ballycross Boy
profit after comm betfair £16.98

BANK NOW £360.32

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Postby Seagull on 23 Feb 2008, 12:34

22 feb

ANY FAV
Yakimov won the first race of the day @2/5

profit £2.00

bank £655.74

ANY FAV NON HAND
Yakimov won @2/5

profit £4.00

Bank £364.32

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Postby Seagull on 23 Feb 2008, 21:01

Sat 22 Feb

ANY FAV
A slow start today and it took six races to get the first fav home but Flying Falcon winning at 11/4 made a profit of £565.00

So from a bank of nothing its in a lsp of £1,220.74.

ANY FAV NON HAND TO 9 RUNNERS
A slow start with this method also but Jack Sullivan won the 6th race but at the sp of evens it made just £10 profit

Bank to c/f £374.32

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Postby arkle55 on 23 Feb 2008, 23:12

SEAGULL HI
I am a little bit lost again, you said that it took six races to find a winner.First bet £5 2nd10 3rd20 4th40 5th80 6th160. Can you confirm please

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Postby arkle55 on 23 Feb 2008, 23:17

SEAGULL HI
160 AT 11/4= 600
STAKES ADDED TOGETHER 315

600 - 315 = 285

WHERE HAVE I GONE WRONG

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Postby Seagull on 23 Feb 2008, 23:48

Sorry Arkle
I missed out the Irish racing and as the old boy includes them and I have been including them since starting this on 1st Jan.

From the gg.com website it took 9 races before the first fav won today.
that horse was beau micheal 2.45 Fairyhouse

so
5, 10, 20,40, 80, 160,320, 640, 1280
so he would had had £1,280 on Beau Michael at 6/4
that would have won £1,920 plus stake
less £1,275 which is total lost on first 8 bets.
so profit should be £645.00


bank was £655.74
add today£645.00
bank c/f £1,300.74

I think that is now correct.

Im only personally backing the non hand ones.

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