Neptune Novices

[Posts: 3324Joined: 20 May 2009, 03:40]

I'll have a proper look tomorrow when I'm not restricted to using my mobile to research, but as far as I can tell 5 fancied FR bred horses have run in the Neptune since 2002; Nicanor, Mikael d'Haguenet, Karabak, Reve de Sivola & So Young. 11223.

Sous Les Cieux? Looks like Boston Bob could be the Mullins Neptune runner though.

[Posts: 2394Joined: 09 Oct 2007, 20:57]

For those who haven't seen it Hobbs has now confirmed this is the target for Fingal Bay. On a personal level good news for me (and I would have thought for most ante-post backers) and more so for the race.

[Posts: 3324Joined: 20 May 2009, 03:40]

Silly decision IMO. Winner of a stamina race like the Challow (14 winners tried winning the Neptune and all failed, Denman included), not a strong traveller and going to go to the Festival without a run for 2 1/2 months.

This will end in disappointment and a lot of hindsight as something will do him for toe up the hill.

[Posts: 1861Joined: 25 Jul 2011, 05:04]

Nicky Henderson has at last found a race with the right ground for Trozulon. I treid 6 different major bookmakers to get a decent ew bet at 50/1 on him for for this without luck and ended up having to go through another bookie to get the bets on with yet another bookie

David Bass rides as BG is off to Ireland. He's a late developer but has a touch of class and might just prove good enough to take his place in this race. It would appear this is where he will go if he turns out to be good enough and not the Supreme as was first thought.

Be interesting to see what price he is on Monday which he should do easily if he has improved at all during his time off. Not the end of the world if he loses ) Chin Up!!!

[Posts: 784Joined: 22 Sep 2011, 23:12Location: North Wales]

Nicky Henderson has at last found a race with the right ground for Trozulon. I treid 6 different major bookmakers to get a decent ew bet at 50/1 on him for for this without luck and ended up having to go through another bookie to get the bets on with yet another bookie

David Bass rides as BG is off to Ireland. He's a late developer but has a touch of class and might just prove good enough to take his place in this race. It would appear this is where he will go if he turns out to be good enough and not the Supreme as was first thought.

Be interesting to see what price he is on Monday which he should do easily if he has improved at all during his time off. Not the end of the world if he loses ) Chin Up!!!

Nicky Henderson does have a shocking record in this race though HGM.

[Posts: 3324Joined: 20 May 2009, 03:40]

That won't bother Fist. Henderson's gonna win every race at the Festival according to him.

[Posts: 784Joined: 22 Sep 2011, 23:12Location: North Wales]

That won't bother Fist. Henderson's gonna win every race at the Festival according to him.

[Posts: 784Joined: 22 Sep 2011, 23:12Location: North Wales]

Got to say, I still like Mount Benbulben for this, despite losing last time out. I'd like to see another run under him before the festival, and might be having some of the 25/1 before he does. Always looked like a top horse with masses of potential to me.

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Gordon Elliott - "The long-term plan is the three-miler at Cheltenham. Obviously good ground is an unknown for him, but I think he should be OK."

[Posts: 784Joined: 22 Sep 2011, 23:12Location: North Wales]

Gordon Elliott - "The long-term plan is the three-miler at Cheltenham. Obviously good ground is an unknown for him, but I think he should be OK."

Ah, I did see that as a potential sticking point, but thought he'd probably take the Neptune route.

Thanks for the heads up though.

[Posts: 784Joined: 22 Sep 2011, 23:12Location: North Wales]

Gordon Elliott - "The long-term plan is the three-miler at Cheltenham. Obviously good ground is an unknown for him, but I think he should be OK."

Ah, I did see that as a potential sticking point, but thought he'd probably take the Neptune route.

Thanks for the heads up though.

That would make tons of sense re-evaluating the prices now

[Posts: 1861Joined: 25 Jul 2011, 05:04]

Nicky Henderson has at last found a race with the right ground for Trozulon. I treid 6 different major bookmakers to get a decent ew bet at 50/1 on him for for this without luck and ended up having to go through another bookie to get the bets on with yet another bookie

David Bass rides as BG is off to Ireland. He's a late developer but has a touch of class and might just prove good enough to take his place in this race. It would appear this is where he will go if he turns out to be good enough and not the Supreme as was first thought.

Be interesting to see what price he is on Monday which he should do easily if he has improved at all during his time off. Not the end of the world if he loses ) Chin Up!!!

Nicky Henderson does have a shocking record in this race though HGM.

Don't care Nicky Henderson will win every race at the fesitval

I've made plenty this season backing them at huge odds and laying them off again when they piss up.

Only horses I care about are Sprinter Sacre and either Grandouet or Spirit Son beating Hurricane fly preferably the former. The rest could fall at the first for all I care as long as they don't get hurt. Be nice if one or two did win as I still stand to win a bit more if they do but I can't lose which is the important thing

[Posts: 3324Joined: 20 May 2009, 03:40]

Fist, was meant tongue-in-cheek

I've just been going through the trends I made 2 years ago for the Supreme, Neptune and RSA. The Supreme trends I made up - what a crock of $h!t€. Just terrible.

The Neptune trends however have held up fairly well and the Cheltenham Festival Betting Guide 2011, bought from Weatherby's and written by Paul Jones (@sportspunter1) has made for very interesting reading (again). Was rather annoyed that I hadn't made a tentative selection for me to follow so had a good luck at the race and the trends.

Well I've had a big look and my conclusion is that there about 25 contenders for it and you need your head tested if you're thinking about having a heavy bet on anything. Fingal Bay will get beaten, but it's just ridiculous how many prospects there are, and even how many unraced horses there are that trade at shortish prices.

Broadback Bob is too old to win this but he has some incredible form. Look no further if he runs in the Albert Bartlett.

Sous Le Cieux ticks an awful lot of boxes though. Trainer, form, race, sire.