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2012 Arkle

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Sea Pigeon

Postby Sea Pigeon on 18 Sep 2011, 13:14

Peddlers Cross is now a best priced 7/1 to win the Arkle.

Stays two and a half miles, pacey enough to finish 2nd in champion hurdle. If he can jump well he wins.

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Long Run

Postby Long Run on 18 Sep 2011, 23:53

Sprinter Sacre wins the Arkle :|

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Postby thehorsesmouth on 21 Sep 2011, 20:25

If Peddlers Cross can transfer his hurdle's form to fences he should be good enough to win an Arkle. Considering he has won in the poin to point field, it has to be considered likely ha can.

One to keep an eye on in Ireland is Solwhit, who has consistently been the second best two mile hurdler here in recent times. I don't think he gets the credit he deserves because he gets beaten so easily by Hurricane Fly but there's no shame in that.

He probably needs further than two miles but has plenty enough speed for an Arkle imo, as seen when he beat Punjabi at Punchestown. His Aintree Hurdle win shows he handles decent ground.
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detroit orchid

Postby detroit orchid on 22 Sep 2011, 14:06

Long Run wrote:Sprinter Sacre wins the Arkle :|


doesn't get up the hill does he?

i backed SS in the supreme was counting my cash turning in but the hill found him out

AL FEROF on the other hand does get up the hill and is my choice atm

but you just know the first nicholls trained stewart owned novice that wins a crappy little race in october will be made 5/2 fav :lol:

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Postby bozlike on 23 Sep 2011, 00:47

I'd agree that if Peddlers Cross can translate his hurdling form to fences he'll be incredibly hard to beat. However, one that I think everyone seems to have written off far too quickly is Menorah. Hobbs has always said that he's a chaser in the making, he looked a smart hurdler and can surely be excused one off-day at the last festival. He also boasts great course form which come March could see him run a big race. Right now I'd go between these two
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Postby fitzer1987 on 23 Sep 2011, 15:59

Peddlers cross will hack up. There is no question of his ability jumping a fence. He jumps like a stag and was born to be a champion over fences.

If peddlers turns up he wins, simple!! Arkle will be his first of many Cheltenham festival successes over fences. He is a machine not a horse.
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Long Run

Postby Long Run on 25 Sep 2011, 20:41

detroit orchid wrote:
Long Run wrote:Sprinter Sacre wins the Arkle :|


doesn't get up the hill does he?

i backed SS in the supreme was counting my cash turning in but the hill found him out

AL FEROF on the other hand does get up the hill and is my choice atm

but you just know the first nicholls trained stewart owned novice that wins a crappy little race in october will be made 5/2 fav :lol:

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Kauto Kid

Postby Kauto Kid on 27 Sep 2011, 15:49

I think this is a very exciting prospect of a race.

We know we are almost certain to see Peddler's Cross, Sprinter Sacre, Cue Card, Al Ferof, Menorah in this race next year...

It's rumoured Punjabi, Solwhit, Getmeoutofhere, Spirit Son will also be in the race ... maybe Sam Winner, depending if Nicholls prefers the 3m route as he seems a bit more like a stayer?

Good luck picking a winner from this lot?

What do we know now?

- Peddler's Cross can get up the hill, stays 2 and a half and has the pace to make a quick 2m at Cheltenham

- Sprinter Sacre couldn't get up the hill in the Supreme Novice's

- Al Ferof bolts up the hill and so does Menorah

- Getmeoutofhere has placed at last 2 festivals so cannot be ruled out

- Cue Card has the frame for a chaser and is a festival winner


Favourites have been turned over in recent years in the Arkle - Tatenen, Medermit, Captain Ceebee..

If i was to pick one right now - it would be Al Ferof
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darren83

Postby darren83 on 27 Sep 2011, 22:14

My pick is ARVIKA LIGEONEIRE was injured last year but Mullins can get horses back to there best and i think he will be better than ever.

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grey dolphin

Postby grey dolphin on 10 Oct 2011, 21:17

Also a big fan of Arvika Ligeonnaire. Looked like a serious horse at Punchestown 18 months ago. Lets hope Willie gets him back with all his talent retained.
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Hurdygurdyman

Postby Hurdygurdyman on 11 Oct 2011, 10:45

This race has the infuriating habit of falling to bits during the build up. Horses who you imagine would be brilliant turn out to be no better than fair or in some cases like Crack Away Jack useless.

I hope Peddlars Cross is as good over fences but look at Get Me Out Of Here! He never got past the schooling yard although he may well have another go this season.

I do like Spriner Sacre but he is a bit gangly looking> If he fills out like he should he could be anything which is enough for me not to back Paddlars AP.

Cue Card won well enough the other day despite getting to close to a few of his fences.

The worry with him is he doesn't look thoroughly genuine and finds nothing for pressure.

If he runs he'll either win in a common canter or he's chuck it and throw the race away. Way too dodgy for my liking,

I'd wait 6 weeks before backing anything in this and let the dust settle a bit
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Postby sandwith100 on 25 Oct 2011, 20:30

If Peddlers Cross jumps he is going to take some stopping.
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Funny the way none of these trainers claim to have schooled these novices over fences yet. McCain suggested he won a point to point, so he can jump and Hobbs seemed equally confident about Menorah despite not having schooled him.

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GDC

Postby GDC on 08 Nov 2011, 17:26

What a superb prospect for this race, Al Ferof, Peddlers Cross and then of course add to the mix Cue Card who looks made for chasing as well :o

You decide LOL i am calling Peddlers at the moment but what an outstanding race if they all rock up on the day fit and well!

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