Reply To: Ruby Walsh

Mr Maggoo………Yarmouth?……….mate you are in a very tiny minority who have this crazy idea of sending people to work without the tools of their trade………for hundreds of years riders all over the world have carried whips……….not just race jockeys. Why?

For all the reasons mentioned that’s why.

Do you think we are the first people on the planet to discuss this……do you think everone in racing is an idiot?

They have thought it out, bent it, twisted it, turned it sideways and come to the conclusion they can’t ban the whip……….it would be too dangerous to do so…………I have no idea what you think you will achieve by standing on a soap box saying let’s get together lads and go tell everyone in racing they are wrong and we are right………very silly Mr Maggoo attitude if ever there was one.

I’m sorry but the main reason a whip is carried is not for safety purposes it is to encourage a horse to go faster. If it is for safety purposes then just use it when it is unsafe. As mentioned previously the hands and heels apprentice races seem to have gone by without anybody being injured and continue to be persevered with and would it be any surprise that current jockeys would be against banning the use of the whip for encouragement purposes ( not the banning of carrying a whip ) as it might show up the inadequacies of such jockeys who can only make a horse go faster by belting the thing. To say just because its been done for hundreds of years is lazy, I suppose you’re still shoving children up chimneys Fist . By all means say that you pro using the whip for making horses go faster but don’t hide behind the safety issue because smacking a horse on the [expletive] has bugger all to do with safety but all to do with making it go faster.

I don’t object to the use of the whip however to go back to the title of the thread, the only way to stop jockeys overusing the whip without disqualifying the horse is to ban the whip from being used.

Now your just getting damn silly and twisting things round……someone should shove you up a chimney….what kid of idiotic thing is that to say?

Are you trying to tell me this idea of banning the whip is revolutionary…..some great idea someone just thought of? .they were still sticking kids up chimneys when they first started debating it.

My point was that should they wish to ban the whip they simply can not
because you are totally 100% wrong when you say it has has bugger all to do with safety ……..wtf makes you think that…….First time there was an accident every jockey in racing would be up in arms.

you’ve obviously never sat on a horse in your life making a silly staement like that.

Sure they could say use it for correctional purposes. However it is generally felt by jockey’s that racing would suffer badly without it. Maily because it does make horse sit up and pay attention to the job at hand.

Here’s an idea… If someone wants to do something to help racing for Pete’s sake come up with something constructive and new not the oldest argument in the book.

I would suggest they get themselves along to the racing and ask a few jockeys what they think about banning the use of the whip as ameans of encouragement…..they’re the ones who would have to do without it…..I would bet anyone 100 quid to a can of coke 95% of jockeys would tell them to bog off and don’t be so damn silly.