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James Reveley - An Absolute Disgrace

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Rubyisgodinthesaddle

Postby Rubyisgodinthesaddle on 26 Nov 2011, 23:25

Clueless rider....

Another of the self anointed star of the future. This guy got beat on a Irish Pointer must be 4 weeks ago at least that was punted off the boards up at Wetherby or somewhere like that. Arrived 4f too early and got beaten by being there 2 early.
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Postby Coggy on 27 Nov 2011, 01:56

Ruby - Sorry to query this, but for clarity purposes, which ride is this that you are talking about ?
"4 weeks ago at least that was punted off the boards at Wetherby or somewhere like that" is not helpful.
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Postby Onthesteal on 27 Nov 2011, 04:00

I backed Cue to Cue, Stilv, and all I can say after watching the race a few times is she was simply out-stayed by the Sue Smith horse.

Came there looking like she was really going to get involved and was 4L behind at the third last, only for the gap to increase to 6 and 14 at the line.

I'm also not sure if this particular 'Kings Theatre' appreciated the softer going than she encountered a couple of weeks back. I stayed loyal to her and backed her on the strength that I thought she'd improve for it!

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Postby Hurdygurdyman on 27 Nov 2011, 08:27

stilvi wrote:He was very poor on Cue To Cue but should undoubtedly have won on Crowning Jewel. No wonder they backed the McManus runner. Stewards should throw the book at him.



Mate you really have to learn how to read a race your comments on James Reavely are way out of order. James had AP well in his sights knowing he had plenty of horse under him. A definite hold up horse on 2 separate occasion he moved closer to the leader to get into a striking position and on 2 separate occasion the horse made bad blunder which lost him the ground he had gained.

The errors couldn't have come at a worse time but that's novice hurdling and no decent jockey is going to knock 10 bells out of a young horse who clearly had no chance of winning turning for home.

Crowning Jewel was was probably an unlucky loser as were you but unfortunate things happen in novice races. You should learn to spot them and take advantage not come off like some old codger who got out of bed on the wrong side.
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Postby trevorgee on 27 Nov 2011, 09:36

He does seems a bit out of his depth

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Postby JJMSports on 27 Nov 2011, 13:37

James Reveley is a terrific and very talented young jockey, and has a highly promising future. Posts like this are clearly infiltrated through people talking through their pockets.

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Bosranic

Postby Bosranic on 28 Nov 2011, 01:13

I would like to know how James Reveley looked 'out of his depth' at Haydock. Diamond Harry jumped as well as he ever has and young James was equal to whatever Ruby asked of Kauto.

Some people clearly have an insular approach to the sport, unaware of anything that occurs beyond these shores.

James has established a strong link with a certain Guillaume Macaire in France and the pair recently celebrated back to back victories in the Gran Premio Merano.

He is right up there with the very best when it comes to presenting a horse to a fence, a prime example being his all the way victory aboard the late Endless Power in the Grand Sefton Chase three years ago when he was just nineteen years old.

His ride on Always Right in the Grimthorpe was another indication of his talent and versatility.

Only twenty-two, he will be in huge demand over the coming years.
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Postby Anonymous on 28 Nov 2011, 02:00

Couldn't comment on his judgement of pace, though his propensity for holding up horses probably stems from his grandmother, Mary Reveley, a top Northern trainer who had most of her horses ridden this way.

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Postby Gingertipster on 28 Nov 2011, 17:11

Must admit, am not that keen on James as a rider since Rambling Minster showed improved form to win the Blue Square Gold Cup by racing more prominently. Yet afterwards, seemed always held up and seldom jumped or raced with the same enthusiasm. May be it was the trainer who told Master Reveley how to ride the horse.

Like others here, I've also noticed James doesn't seem to adapt to the pace of a race as well as some. If riding a hold up horse who is a stayer at the trip; a jockey needs to get a prominent position (or even go to the front) sooner in a slowly run race, than he/she would in a strongly run affair. Otherwise he's going to be outpaced in the sprint for home.

That's not to say James Reveley isn't capable of a good ride. I backed Diamond Harry in the Betfair and saw nothing wrong with the ride.
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Postby Bosranic on 05 Dec 2011, 00:27

Two fine rides in the Monteith Memorial and Borders National at Kelso this afternoon aboard the John Wade duo, Always Right and Eyre Square.

Perfectly placed in both races and a pleasure as always to watch him over a fence. Tactically aware and strong in the finish on Eyre Square.

Well done, James!
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Postby douginho on 05 Dec 2011, 22:59

I think John Francome is a big fan of James Reveley, especially how he presents a horse to an obstacle. Maybe his judgement of pace is out but rather see my horse jump well and conserve energy than be going half a stride too quick and making a horlicks of its fences. Time will tell if he learns to judge pace better. He seems to be riding regular winners so trainers/owners obviously think he's doing just fine.

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Postby JJMSports on 07 Dec 2011, 16:31

If someone disputes how good a jockey is, watch the ride he gave Celian in the 3.20.
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Postby stilvi on 13 Dec 2011, 17:07

Hurdygurdyman wrote:
stilvi wrote:He was very poor on Cue To Cue but should undoubtedly have won on Crowning Jewel. No wonder they backed the McManus runner. Stewards should throw the book at him.



Mate you really have to learn how to read a race your comments on James Reavely are way out of order. James had AP well in his sights knowing he had plenty of horse under him. A definite hold up horse on 2 separate occasion he moved closer to the leader to get into a striking position and on 2 separate occasion the horse made bad blunder which lost him the ground he had gained.

The errors couldn't have come at a worse time but that's novice hurdling and no decent jockey is going to knock 10 bells out of a young horse who clearly had no chance of winning turning for home.

Crowning Jewel was was probably an unlucky loser as were you but unfortunate things happen in novice races. You should learn to spot them and take advantage not come off like some old codger who got out of bed on the wrong side.


Matter of opinion but I believe it is you who needs to do a bit of learning. You are defending a ride on a horse that given anything like a reasonable ride - if you ride from that far back everything has to go perfectly - should have won comfortably. Should never have been in a position to have needed to have knocked seven bells out of it. Substitute incompetence for luck.

He was useless again on the same horse today. Riding the horse closer to the pace over a longer distance he allowed the front to get away and only got 'busy' when he couldn't possibly win.

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