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Postby elgransenor1 on 31 Dec 2011, 01:10

fingal bay is very short to win the challow hurdle today at newbury, however I have a feeling that he's somewhat overrated given the amount of hype surrounding this horse (trainer has described how he could be the best he's ever trained, etc ) and has yet to post any decent speed figures. we'll learn more about him after todays race.
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Postby KINGFISHER on 31 Dec 2011, 16:19

Well i've been thinking this Fingal Bay was going to be the fly in the ointment to my Sea of Thunder in the 'Albert Bartlett' so was hoping he'd go for the Neptune,after that performance in a Grade 1 Challow i fear him no longer so he can run where he likes as he wont win!Simple as that!
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Postby elgransenor1 on 31 Dec 2011, 16:21

question is whether he idled in front or just isn't that good. jury is still out on that one. in some ways he oozes class but you would have expected more against that lot. presenter making a lot of the fact that challow hurdle winners have a terrible record in the neptune as well.
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Postby miniman on 31 Dec 2011, 17:47

He was definitely idling in front. The main worry for Cheltenham would be the ground.

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Zarkava

Postby Zarkava on 31 Dec 2011, 18:49

What a stupid, horrible, pointless race that was. God knows why anybody is reading anything substantial into that. Could have called it a Class 3 event and nobody would have known the difference.

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Zarkava

Postby Zarkava on 01 Jan 2012, 20:06

What a horrible market. Take out Fingal Bay & it's wide open with a case to be made for practically anything. Neither Fourth Estate or Oscar Magic have even had a run yet they're in there at 20/1.

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Postby GDC on 05 Jan 2012, 12:00

This race is wide open as surely Fingal Bay will not get his required ground and that would lean me towards an Irish winner, step forward Mr Mullins and whoever you decide to send to this event, simples :D

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MarkTT

Postby MarkTT on 08 Jan 2012, 19:58

Monksland was good today, and could have won by much further, but obviously a little quirky. Has previously run out and today flashed his tail.

Didn't look like an obvious winner of the Neptune though

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Zarkava

Postby Zarkava on 08 Jan 2012, 20:29

Yeah throw in the name of his trainer & he's not exactly an attractive Festival prospect.

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Postby Hurdygurdyman on 08 Jan 2012, 21:06

Irish Hurdlers never look great until they get here.

Year after year we assume ours are better year after year they prove is wrong.

A lot of their hurdle races seem to be run at a crawl then it's a mad dash to the line and you wonder if the form is suspect.

Nice horse the winner although I liked the second who was let down badly by some real bad jumps at exactly the wrong time. The 3rd was highly thought of so the form might just be a bit better than ok.
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Postby Hurdygurdyman on 08 Jan 2012, 21:11

KINGFISHER wrote:Well i've been thinking this Fingal Bay was going to be the fly in the ointment to my Sea of Thunder in the 'Albert Bartlett' so was hoping he'd go for the Neptune,after that performance in a Grade 1 Challow i fear him no longer so he can run where he likes as he wont win!Simple as that!
Reminds me of that horse of Alan Kings Celectial Halo kicked into touch. I'm with you I reckon he's a massive lay for chelters

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MarkTT

Postby MarkTT on 08 Jan 2012, 21:44

Hurdygurdyman wrote:Irish Hurdlers never look great until they get here.




Why make such ridiculous statements ? Hyperbolegurdyman.


Nothing personal, but i think this contributes to many arguments over relatively little.

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GDC

Postby GDC on 09 Jan 2012, 10:49

I have taken a chance with Mr Hendersons CAPTAIN CONAN for this event in the hope that he does not go for the Supreme (if in fact he goes anywhere come March!).

The owners bought this lad for chasing and from his size you can see why, however he ran a nice race at Sandown (i like my ante post bets to have a run here if they do not go to Cheltenham beforehand!!) and as he won in France over 2m 2f i think the Neptune will suit better than the Supreme. Short with some firms however 365 are still 25s and that was worth £20 of my hard earned :D

The horse can only improve for the run and BJG had never sat on him until Saturday. It is likely that Colour Squadron may have beat him had he ran straight but he didn't so..........

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