Argento chase

[Posts: 1159Joined: 17 Dec 2007, 00:00Location: Kent]

Had a sneaky £10 E/W at 11/2 at Corals on Captain Chris.

I feel he's better than the King George and that wasn't a bad effort. I guess we'll soon find out if he really stays!!

I hope Grand Crus does go for gold if he scoots up.

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[Posts: 385Joined: 18 Mar 2010, 11:28]

after such a smooth win in the henessy, it would be nice to see diamond harry make amends for such a frustrating start to the season.

[Posts: 3324Joined: 20 May 2009, 03:40]

That horse looks completely finished to me. He's suggested to be an autumn horse who goes brilliantly well when fresh but his run in the Betfair was just bad. The horse doesn't like Cheltenham so I'd be surprised if he was a factor at the finish, although I fully expect to see him cruising 3 out.

[Posts: 41Joined: 11 Feb 2011, 00:22Location: Tamworth, Staffs]

After Pipe's comments today, got a sneaking feeling Grands Crus won't turn up on Saturday.

[Posts: 199Joined: 18 Mar 2008, 20:41Location: Weston super mare]

I kinda picked up that vibe too Hoss. 'If he runs Tom will school him in the morning. He's not fully wound up yet....' sounds more like a negative than a positive.
If he avoids this line up you can assume they are reluctant to over face him in the gold cup also.

[Posts: 937Joined: 28 Feb 2011, 13:01]

Suggestion on twitter that TS has said GC will run in Argento.

The Minack would have been my selection but despite PFN saying he runs, the Betfair market suggests he won't.

TFR looks to me to have something wrong with him - he seems to run with the choke out in these top races and I'd want to see a top notch performance at this level before backing him though he has done me a few favours in the past.

I've watched R Johnson have too many disagreements with horses at obstacles to back anything he rides. A number of horses seem to guess at jumps - hurdle and 'chase - with RJ, not always obvious in the form book as I've seen more than one come up a stride too soon, occasionally taking off outside the wings - looks spectacular but suggests to me the horse has a lack of confidence in RJ.

Diamond Harry is 2 from 4 at Cheltenham despite his trainer's suggestion he might be unsuited by the track. Newbury has helped make his reputation (5 from 6) and he's also quite fragile. I wouldn't be surprised to see him run well but wouldn't back him to do so at 11/2.

If you are willing to accept trainer and jock's assertion that Carruthers had something ailing him last season, and forgive his last run in desperate ground at Chepstow, he might well be the value at 20/1. Master of the Hall appeals too at 33s EW although he needs to lose his habit of blundering badly. But Geraghty is riding better than ever, and is rivalled only by Ruby round Cheltenham, imo, and if there is to be a surprise I think it might come from the NJH horse.

All told, Grands Crus probably hasn't that much to beat although he will need to learn to settle to get home and my suspicion is that although he might win, he won't see it out well enough to persuade connections to go for the big one.

Final verdict would be a small EW bet on Master of the Hall.

[Posts: 806Joined: 25 Feb 2008, 00:23Location: Not far from Ponte!]

Think Midnight Chase at 10/1 is an absolute cracking bet for this. Ran a blinder under a huge weight on softer ground than probably ideal last time, that was the first sign of showing some of the excellent form that sent him to the Gold Cup last year.

Will prefer the better ground and has an excellent record at Cheltenham with 4 wins registered.

I reckon at least two of the front 4 in the betting in front of him will falter and I don't see anything at a bigger price to worry about, so looks sure to finish top 3 at least for me!!

[Posts: 3324Joined: 20 May 2009, 03:40]

MotH is a flat-track horse.

[Posts: 937Joined: 28 Feb 2011, 13:01]

MotH is a flat-track horse.

Well he's won at Sandown as is 2 from 2 at Ascot

[Posts: 1963Joined: 15 Mar 2010, 00:56]

Midnight Chase for me. The way he travelled though his last race was eyecatching, giving lumps of weight away to the winner According To Pete, who came out and won again at the weekend.

As already stated, loves Cheltenham, and despite capitulating in The Gold Cup, he kept on, and was a lot closer at the end than he's given credit for.

Of the others, could make a case for most of them, but 10's seems a very fair price, and would be very hopeful he could place at the very least. Wouldn't be putting too much on him, but fairly confident nonetheless.

Whatever happens, cracking line up at the moment, and hope they all take their chance.

[Posts: 3324Joined: 20 May 2009, 03:40]

Chris 4s from 6s, serious confidence behind him.

[Posts: 199Joined: 18 Mar 2008, 20:41Location: Weston super mare]

Some of that will be pre-emotive money based on the possibility of a Grand Crus defection. The market is coming in line with my perception of the race nonetheless. No doubt price wise will put up midnight chase or something and turn it on its head Saturday AM anyway!

[Posts: 304Joined: 23 Dec 2007, 00:59Location: Cheltenham]

its been raining a lot @ chelt atm - we have had a fair bit tonight and its heavy right now

as of now its torrential