Prix De Arc De Triomphe 2012

[Posts: 1664Joined: 16 Jun 2009, 00:36]

Hills have opened a market they have CAMELOT at 8/1 fav i expect him to lose this week so price be bigger.But this a simple race just focus on the 3yos.The horses i like so far

BEAUTY PARLOUR 16/1

Been talked about being as good as Zarkava those she got a long way to go she is built for 1m4 she got nice speed as well.

IMPERIAL MONARCH 33/1

Though he prefer cut in the ground i think this is a top class horse who will get better as the season goes on.

[Posts: 4677Joined: 12 Mar 2008, 23:07Location: Taunton Somerset]

I also like the look of Beauty Parlour, a potential superstar?......

[Posts: 1551Joined: 04 Mar 2010, 10:15Location: Huddersfield]

Current shortlist is Camelot, Galikova and athaniel.

[Posts: 1551Joined: 04 Mar 2010, 10:15Location: Huddersfield]

Current shortlist is Camelot, Galikova and athaniel.

Should have gotten on much earlier. Whoops!

[Posts: 937Joined: 28 Feb 2011, 13:01]

At 25s, I'm happy to take the chance Frankel will get the trip

[Posts: 1551Joined: 04 Mar 2010, 10:15Location: Huddersfield]

At 25s, I'm happy to take the chance Frankel will get the trip

If he turns up he will be a short favourite, so see you logic, has HRAC said anything about Frankel running? If he is even a 20% chance I would definitely take the risk.

[Posts: 937Joined: 28 Feb 2011, 13:01]

At 25s, I'm happy to take the chance Frankel will get the trip

If he turns up he will be a short favourite, so see you logic, has HRAC said anything about Frankel running? If he is even a 20% chance I would definitely take the risk.

Cecil's said nothing as far as I know. Just a hunch of mine that he will get that far - there's nothing in his breeding to suggest he won't, he'll be stronger this year and more relaxed so, like you, I think he's well worth a small investment in the hope the hunch proves right.

[Posts: 1861Joined: 25 Jul 2011, 05:04]

Frankel may well get the trip but would he get is on a plane/boat to France?

The only way I can see him going for the Arc is if he hasn't won over 12f beforehand. Let's say for example Frankel won a poorly contested King George over 12f why would Henry then take the risk of running him in the Arc, the toughest race in the world and him possibly losing his unbeaten record?

I recon business done they'd drop him back to 10f and go Breeders or Champion Stakes to end his career.

I think his price reflects more that he is unlikely to run rather than stay.

[Posts: 6533Joined: 21 Oct 2008, 00:37]

At 25s, I'm happy to take the chance Frankel will get the trip

Joe there's more chance of Sir des Champs running in the Arc than Frankel and thats only because he's got a french name! Besides I'm not sure the RSPCA would let a horse who's stamina is so much in question actually run!

[Posts: 1861Joined: 25 Jul 2011, 05:04]

Well Noble Mission certainly stays......just because he's brilliant over a mile Gord doesn't mean he wont get further. Frankel has so much class and he's bound to be less playful a year on...with him anything is possible.

It's Henry I worry about when it comes to the Arc he point blank refused to run Midday in the race despite the act the form book said she should. He simply doesn't like the race, he's never won it and most likely never will.

[Posts: 6533Joined: 21 Oct 2008, 00:37]

Well Noble Mission certainly stays......just because he's brilliant over a mile Gord doesn't mean he wont get further. Frankel has so much class and he's bound to be less playful a year on...with him anything is possible.

'Noble Mission' really is nothing like his brother Hurdy.When a horse wins the 2000gns in the style Frankel did tells you instantly he wont stay,No horse has that sort of speed over a mile and the stamina to win over 11/2m,just look at all the 11/2m horses who did win the Guineas,None won like that,not even the greatest of them all,'The Brave One'!
My idea of this years Arc Winner is a horse............Yes a horse........The only horse to get within 1/2l of the monster they call 'Frankel'...........A horse who has beaten an Arc Winner in 'Workforce'...........A beast of a horse who has strengthened up into an imposing 4yo...........His name is ...NAAAAAAAAAAATHAAAAAAANIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEL 25/1 wont last long now!

[Posts: 2032Joined: 06 Jun 2011, 14:34Location: Bury St Edmunds]

After 3 consecutive foreign trained winners, what price a French trained winner?

[Posts: 1762Joined: 19 May 2011, 07:41Location: paris, france]

ZARKAVA in 2008, alain de royé dupré.