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indocine

Postby indocine on 04 Jul 2012, 10:06

Massive day, lots of Higgsteria. So we now know where the mass comes from that slows horses down. However, the Standard Model still fails to shed light on why Barney Curley is still allowed to continue being a prize boson. Though, 126GeV passed through him might cease his pollution of the dataset.

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Postby reetlass on 04 Jul 2012, 10:20

I must admit that I'm rather frightened by the sight of this 'big machine'. I'm really surprised that the top hasn't blown off Switzerland by now.
I'm not a very scientific person, mainly because I don't understand it all and I'm too ancient to start now. Is it going to make a big difference to mankind to know that this 'ere particle existed at one time if it doesn't exist now?
Sorry I'm such a dinosaur, but pass me the magnifying glass, please, that's good enough for me!!.
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paulostermeyer

Postby paulostermeyer on 04 Jul 2012, 11:21

(Frankel + Camelot + Black Caviar + Sea The Stars)*10,000 still does not equal the excitement of the Higgs boson announcement.

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Postby Drone on 04 Jul 2012, 12:08

Most interesting and I do hope the discovery is confirmed as this is genuine Life, The Universe and Everything stuff

Though as Stephen Hawking has pointedly remarked 'it would be more interesting if they didn't find it' :)

Try as I might to conquer Particle Physics, Quantum Mechanics, String Theory and Relativity they all continue to baffle, which is why it fascinates so much

Isaac Newton's famous words seem apt:

I was like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me

Though methinks that experimental confirmation of the existence of the Higgs Boson will prove to be the discovery of a very large, very smooth pebble or a particularly big and beautiful shell...

...but that great uncharted ocean is still out there :?:

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Bachelors Hall

Postby Bachelors Hall on 04 Jul 2012, 12:14

paulostermeyer wrote:(Frankel + Camelot + Black Caviar + Sea The Stars)*10,000 still does not equal the excitement of the Higgs boson announcement.


Yet the re-emergence of Sprinter Sacre surpasses it :wink:

http://vimeo.com/41038445

As far as I can make out, the parameters of scientific understanding have increased exponentially.

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Postby paulostermeyer on 04 Jul 2012, 12:34

Drone wrote:Most interesting and I do hope the discovery is confirmed as this is genuine Life, The Universe and Everything stuff

Though as Stephen Hawking has pointedly remarked 'it would be more interesting if they didn't find it' :)

Try as I might to conquer Particle Physics, Quantum Mechanics, String Theory and Relativity they all continue to baffle, which is why it fascinates so much

Isaac Newton's famous words seem apt:

I was like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me

Though methinks that experimental confirmation of the existence of the Higgs Boson will prove to be the discovery of a very large, very smooth pebble or a particularly big and beautiful shell...

...but that great uncharted ocean is still out there :?:


May I recommend How To Teach Quantum Physics To Your Dog by Chad Orzel it's much better than Hawkings book - it's the book that helped open it up for me - he even explains it better than Brian Cox.

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stevecaution

Postby stevecaution on 04 Jul 2012, 14:54

reetlass wrote:I must admit that I'm rather frightened by the sight of this 'big machine'.


I had great amusement listening to two old wifies discussing the impending testing of the machine some time ago and one of them referred to it as the HARDON Collider.
Did your Granny always tell you that the old nags were the best, then she's up there cheering Frankel with the rest!!

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andyod

Postby andyod on 04 Jul 2012, 15:48

I read the Wealth of Nations sixty years ago.That was as far as I got understanding the nature of the universe.Ugly little planet.Greedy little occupants.Seedy little lot.

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moehat

Postby moehat on 04 Jul 2012, 19:25

Just have to read Hitchikers Guide and carry a towel imo. At least that doesn't have such daft names; but then again......

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betlarge

Postby betlarge on 04 Jul 2012, 22:34

Drone wrote:Though as Stephen Hawking has pointedly remarked 'it would be more interesting if they didn't find it'

I bet he bloody did - just said on the news that he had a $100 bet with one of the scientists that it wouldn't be found.

No concept of value that man.

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Drone

Postby Drone on 05 Jul 2012, 11:02

paulostermeyer wrote: May I recommend How To Teach Quantum Physics To Your Dog by Chad Orzel it's much better than Hawkings book - it's the book that helped open it up for me - he even explains it better than Brian Cox.


Thank you Paul, not a book I was aware of. From 'A Brief History of Time' via numerous impenetrable Wikipedia articles to the recent brave attempt by Brian Cox to explain the Higgs Mechanism for dummies I am left with the inescapable feeling that it all may as well all have been young dogs trying to teach an old dog new tricks :?

Seriously, I've long felt that my grasping of a rudimentary if satisfactory and comfortable understanding of all things Universal and Sub-Atomic is but one great leap forward away, an almost tip-of-the-tongue experience; but yet at present it still remains shuffle forward, shuffle back

Annoying but intriguing

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sberry

Postby sberry on 06 Jul 2012, 12:35

Of course once faster than light speed or time travel is discovered, racing and everything will be no more.

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Drone

Postby Drone on 06 Jul 2012, 13:18

sberry wrote:Of course once faster than light speed or time travel is discovered, racing will be no more.


The race will finish before it has started

If I owned a horse it would be named Tachyon

You 'knew' Mr Bookmaker, now I 'know' :)


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