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[Posts: 4751Joined: 07 Oct 2002, 11:50Location: Scotland]

I'd agree with Aranalde here, pionts of view and what is acceptable to society as a whole does change over time. We are unfortunate enough to live in a society that has lost it's way a little bit.

There is a massive over representation on the telly, the News in particular of ethnic minorities. Homosexuals make up 6% of the population, according to the last census, this group is also over presented in the media, IMO.

Political Correctness could be said to be views that 'do not respect or are degratory of another person based on creed, religion or sexual orientation'. To air views that you do not like people because of these reasons is almost completely illegal .. unless you are in the Taleban, and then they'll concoct some daft story about you and come and kill you all!

[Posts: 2684Joined: 05 Nov 2002, 15:47]

[i]But can you tell me the difference prejuidiced, and someone with likes and dislikes. [/i]

In the context I was using it, it's the "la la la, I'm not listening" brigade. Typified by those who have opinions that they can't explain with reason.

It the same sort of people who, when confronted by logical arguments from the early astronomers that the earch revolved around the sun, hid behind their superstitions.    

[i]Political Correctness could be said to be views that 'do not respect or are degratory of another person based on creed, religion or sexual orientation'. [/i]

Then, surely, the Simpsons is massively Politically Incorrect.

Yet it's on the TV every day.

Maybe more evidence that, done intelligently, you can make fun of anything and intelligent people will understand?

Steve

[Posts: 1115Joined: 16 Jan 2003, 19:24Location: Birmingham / London]

Don't even go there Steve.

Call me gay, homophobic, sexist or a bigot.

Just don't be messing with the greatest t.v show ever made :)

[Posts: 4751Joined: 07 Oct 2002, 11:50Location: Scotland]

I've never watched the Simpson's, its a cartoon.

[Posts: 2684Joined: 05 Nov 2002, 15:47]

[i]Just don't be messing with the greatest t.v show ever made [/i]

Cool down, Lee.

I was using it as an example of how "political correctness" doesn't stop true humour.

Father Ted would be another example. It slagged off the catholic church constantly but did so in a humerous and inventive way.

Steve  

[Posts: 1115Joined: 16 Jan 2003, 19:24Location: Birmingham / London]

some people are so touchy...

it was a joke

[Posts: 2684Joined: 05 Nov 2002, 15:47]

[i]it was a joke[/i]

I know.

So was my, "cool down, Lee" comment.

Maybe I should have followed it by half-a-dozen smilies.

;) :) ;) :) ;) ;) :)

Anyway, I can't understand how someone could describe the Simpsons as a "cartoon".

I mean.....

Another example of non-pc humour is "So I married an axe-murderer" which takes the p**s out of the Scottish big time in a very funny way.  

Steve

[Posts: 1115Joined: 16 Jan 2003, 19:24Location: Birmingham / London]

Fair enough mate.

The Simpsons - a cartoon ?

My whole adult life has just been a lie then.

Damn you Fox network !!

[Posts: 1194Joined: 08 Jun 2002, 16:58Location: Arra. (Harrow if your posh)]

Stevedvg.<br>  The simpsons is more a reality tv programme, because most people can relate to its issues and it doesnt really offend. But I bet they have had a few complaints from cat/mouse lovers regarding Itchy and Scratchy.

I ask you this.

If its okay to show the Simpsons, every day, why do the good people at U.K. Gold, never show quality comedy, the likes of Alf Garnet talking about "the bloody wogs" and the other one, I think it was, The man about the house, (dont quote me on that though) that had the black poof who used to call his landlord "white honkey". Quality comedy, but because of our new society, never to be seen again. It wont be on the tv anymore because it upsets some of the small minded people who cant take a joke about themselves.

Aranalde.

The answer to your question is. <br> The whole P.C. thing has got so out of hand within the past 10 years, that it will only get worse over the next 10. This is the thin edge of the wedge, mark my words.

If this government stay in power, within 20 years, you will have to fill out a form every morning just to go to and from work.  

[Posts: 2684Joined: 05 Nov 2002, 15:47]

[i]I think it's fair to say it was the writer's intention that the joke was supposed to be on ''Alf Garnett'' for his ridiculously bigotted views. [/i]

There was a more recent show on this theme.

Anyone remember the episode of Father Ted where Ted offended the Chinese community?

("So, I hear you're a racist now, father" )

I invite anyone who saw that show to explain to me how it was "politically correct".

The Simpsons has racial stereotypes. Groundskeeper Willie for example. And when they went to Scotland to capture Nessie, they took the p**s<br> out of the scots big time.

It's not the same humour as 30 years ago.

But why would it be? 30 years ago many people were worried about coloured people moving into their neighbourhoods. Now, for most, it's part of every day life.

30 years ago, coloured people seemed strange. Now, for most, they're friends, neighbours and work colleagues.    

And the reasons the gay stereotypes of 30 years ago have been replaced by the gay stereotypes of shows like "Will and Grace" is that we, as a culture, aren't as  ingorant as we were 30 years ago.

Anyway, I'm now fully convinced that Lolly is just a wind-up merchant who's been laughing at us for the last few weeks.

My guess is that he is, in reality, a camp black man (like the TRF equivalent of Derek from Big Brother).  

Steve

(Edited by stevedvg at 11:27 am on July 5, 2005)

[Posts: 7355Joined: 31 May 2004, 16:52Location: Ubiquitous]

[quote]<br>My guess is that he is, in reality, a camp black man (like the TRF equivalent of Derek from Big Brother).  

Steve

(Edited by stevedvg at 11:27 am on July 5, 2005)<br>[/quote]

<br>I think there's a little camp black man in all of us.

Fnarr.

Jeremy<br>(graysonscolumn)

[Posts: 1194Joined: 08 Jun 2002, 16:58Location: Arra. (Harrow if your posh)]

Stevie babe.  ;)

Love you.  TTFN.